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The Mars Hill/Driscoll Refutation Series: #2- “Church Needs Dudes” video September 15, 2008

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Came across this video today.  It perfectly highlights a couple of the topics discussed in the last post in this series and illuminates another method in Driscoll’s multi-faceted approach– capitalizing on modern distribution medium in the form of Internet videos.  The video provides an excellent window into the mind, views and goals of Mark Driscoll.

Listen to what he is saying- both explicitly and implicitly.  He is slamming the modern Christian man- calling them “chickified”.  Aside from it being a generalization, I actually agree with him here.  When I picture the “average Christian guy”, I think of an excessively nice, “yes dear”, passive, accountant-type in khaki Dockers and a short sleeve shirt with a tie. 

This is the Insider Effect at work- “If you’re with us, you are not chickified”.  Explicitly he is saying the Christian male has become a sissy.  But implicitly he is saying, if you listen to me and come to my church you are not a sissy and you are on the inside.  Take a second to think about the psychology behind that!  Also, keep in mind that I agree with the MESSAGE- what I want to shed light on is the METHOD. 

In this video we again see the edgy brand/image in his delivery.  The hair, the black shirt, the jewelry.  Driscoll is selling a new brand, HIS brand, and he is actively recruiting those that he believe will shape the future: young men.

At the end of the video, he states, flat out, that he is after the young men because if you control them- you control everything.  “If you get the young men, you win the war.”–direct quote.  He is selling an extreme message in an aggressive and effective manner.

Now here comes an interesting chain of thought- I agree with some of what he says in this video; mainly that you do don’t have to be a wuss to be a good man.  Where I get off the bus is when Christianity and the Bible is used as a source of authority to sell this viewpoint.   Driscoll’s opinion and view is that Jesus, David, John the Baptist and Elijah were a particular type of man AND HE USES THIS AS A SOURCE OF AUTHORITY TO SUPPORT HIS VIEW.  He uses his interpretation of the Bible to authenticate his opinion of what the Christian man should be…what his brand of Christianity is.

The message, logic and reasoning of being a strong, positive, good man stands on its own.

Why can’t we just promote men being strong, positive, good men without bringing religious interpretation into the equation?  Why is an interpretive biblical reference necessary to convince followers that being a strong, positive, good man is a good idea?  Because people don’t think- they have to be told and the Bible has been positioned as a telling authority.  In a later post, I will address the power of interpretation and how that plays into Biblical interpretation and attempts to draw authority from such.

Driscoll says this: “I think Jesus, David and John the Baptist were strong men.  You should be a strong, good man.  You don’t have to be chickified to be a good man.”

I say this: “You should be a strong, good man.  You don’t have to be chickified to be a good man.”

Being a good man is a universal truth- it stands on its own.

You want more? How about the 10 Commandments-

The first 5 commandments are just rules to preserve the religion itself but the second 5, (6-10) are universal truths: honor your father and mother, do not murder, commit adultery, steal, lie or covet.  Don’t those stand by on their own?

Isn’t it possible that Moses went up that mountain and carved these basic, universal truths into stone but knew that in order to convince the non-thinking masses- he would have to supplement their power with a little mysticism?  Thomas Jefferson was of the opinion that the teachings of Jesus were, at their core, an enlightened set of morals.  Strip away all the mysticism of Jesus and what do you have?  A universal truth…do unto others.



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